Seattle’s Tech Job Crunch: How Long Can the Valley Invaders Poach from Microsoft, Amazon Before the Talent Well Runs Low?

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around 1999. When the state cuts its support, universities like UW respond by adding more out-of-state students to the mix because they pay a higher, unsubsidized tuition rate.

“It kind of sucks that the children of Washington parents can’t get into the University of Washington and pursue a STEM (science, technology, engineering, math) degree because there’s not enough slots,” says entrepreneur Jeremy Jaech, chairman of the Technology Alliance. “But it’s not likely to change anytime soon.”

Meanwhile, signs of the coming tech job stampede continue to build all around Seattle. Facebook opened its office here last fall and is growing. Since then, Zynga, Splunk, and Jawbone also have announced expansions to the area. Twitter has purchased local startup Cloudhopper, and Salesforce.com recently moved into expanded digs in South Lake Union. Google, a relative veteran on the Seattle scene, keeps on hiring.

Established companies are still doing their bit. My search of the job board on Microsoft’s corporate site turned up at least 534 tech jobs in the region—it’s probably a lot more than that, but several of the biggest categories hit the 100-job search limit. The Seattle Times recently pegged Amazon job postings for tech talent at more than 900, and Google recently told the paper that its area offices ended 2010 with about 800 people. According to data compiled for Xconomy by job-search aggregator Indeed, there are around 1,300 unique postings for software engineers in the greater Seattle area right now.

In that kind of environment, it’s no wonder smaller companies are having to work a lot harder to find workers. Among them is SEOmoz, the Seattle-based company that recently started offering a $12,000 bounty to anyone who refers a successfully hired software engineer. It’s an aggressive, but well-established tactic in California that stirred up some headlines in the Seattle area. Chief Executive Rand Fishkin says SEOmoz got about 300 candidates based on the promotion. But he had to get the company in front of about 60,000 to 100,000 eyeballs to generate those leads, and after several weeks of combing through resumes, SEOmoz had hired just two people out of the roughly 10 they were shooting for when I talked to him last week.

“Two years ago, you put a job on Craigslist, you’d have 50 to 100 applicants. Times have really changed,” Fishkin says. “An ad on Craigslist from us now gets 20 to 30 applicants. The vast majority of them are clearly not qualified.”

Fishkin is a little bemused by the situation. After all, he says, SEOmoz is a steadily growing, profitable business that offers a small-company atmosphere to techies who don’t want to get lost in the vast hallways of a major corporate campus. Since when was that such a hard sell?

“It does make you feel weird,” Fishkin says. “It makes you feel that there’s something strange going on in the market when you’re not an exciting company.”

Curt Woodward is a senior editor for Xconomy. Email: cwoodward@xconomy.com Follow @curtwoodward

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  • cobs

    Yes, this article is interesting. However I don’t know if this is in fact really spin.

    As a grad of the university of washington cse program, and the lucky few to get in more than ten years ago, I have to say that yes its unfortunate that more uw students aren’t able to get in. Especially considering that most high schools don’t prepare their students with computer science courses most kids aren’t exposed to how interesting the field is.

    In my opinion, residents of the state who would have been interested in computer science are out in the cold and gives the advantage to the hungry h1-b visa types from other countries. Not that I am knocking them but it doesn’t seem to be a fair playing field for eager local kids.

    In addition, to add to this, a lot of tech companies in the area are very discriminating and it is not enough to just have a degree in cs from the uw. A lot of companies here have relationships with certain programs across the nation, e.g. mit, carnegie mellon, and waterloo (amazon does).

    So I think part of this “perceived shortage” is contributed by the fact that employers are being extremel picky/ unrealistic about job qualifications (and expecting tons of people to have e.g. 10 years C++ and 5 years experience with Python and 5 years of MySQL and experience with multithreading using pthreads – I mean who really has this?? Its ridiculous).

    UW does a good job of laying some of the fundamentals but it is really up to the student to really become proficient in any of the programming languages. And it takes years for anyone to really become good at any programming language, don’t be fooled by those learn java in 24 hours books..

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  • Aaron

    Interesting article. I feel like I’ve read this article 5 times over the last 10 years. Every year or two the newspaper or a magazine publishes an article about how hard it is to find programmers or other tech workers.

    It’s kinda like the shortage of lawyers. As a Feshman at university I didn’t  know I wanted to study engineering. I was thinking about law. So I listened to speakers from law firms and they all complained about how hard it was to find lawyers. I’ve kept up with it over 20 years and law firms still complain they can’t find people to hire.

    As a freshman, I misunderstood the problem. It’s not about a lack of law school graduates. It’s just that the kind of lawyers they wanted hire were in the top 10% of their class. Law firms were competing very hard for that percentile and it was (and still is) really hard to find those people. By definition, the candidate pool can never be larger than about 1 in 10 job seekers.

    Churning out more CS grads at the UW will not do much to alleviate the “tech crunch”. My experience trying to land a job at Amazon taught me about this. I studied up on Amazon before I interviewed there. Long ago Jeff Bezos told his people it is better to interview 20 people and hire no one than it is to hire 1 wrong person. That still permeates the culture. At Amazon, you have to make it through two separate phone screens were your knowledge of data structures, algorithms, puzzle solving ability, and maybe multi-threaded programming and OO design is tested. If you pass those, you get invited to a full day interview where the puzzles and tech questions get harder. Finally, a person called the “bar raiser” gives you the toughest interview of the day. The bar raiser is responsible for ensuring you are better than the average person currently employed by Amazon. Amazon wants to continually increase the level of talent in-house and they only hire people who can clear the “raised bar”. I’ve interviewed with Amazon three times. Twice I didn’t get past the first phone screen and only once I made it to the second phone screen.

     Tech companies aren’t just looking for people who know how to program. After all, there are plenty of people who know how to program. They are looking for the “bar raisers”. And indeed, those people have been very hard to find and will always be hard to find.

    (all typos and diction problems here are blamed on my iPhone)

  • Liz

    If Seattle is rich with talented tech people, then how is it so difficult to find a technical co-founder?

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