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	<title>Comments on: Royalty-Based Venture Financing, Born in Boston, Could Shake Up VCs and Startups from New England to the Northwest</title>
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		<title>By: An alternative way to finance startups by Andy Sack &#171; Chimera Strategies</title>
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		<dc:creator>An alternative way to finance startups by Andy Sack &#171; Chimera Strategies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 23:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] revenue-based finance model, sometimes called royalty-based finance (RBF), was introduced over 50 years ago and is again gaining popularity today.&#160; The RBF model [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pulp Funding: An Alternative Way To Finance Startups - Forbes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pulp Funding: An Alternative Way To Finance Startups - Forbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] revenue-based finance model, sometimes called royalty-based finance (RBF), was introduced over 50 years ago and is again gaining popularity today.  The RBF model [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Royalty Based Investment: What's in It for Angel Investors &#124; Venture Hype</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2009/10/07/royalty-based-venture-financing-born-in-boston-could-shake-up-vcs-and-startups-from-new-england-to-the-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-245391</link>
		<dc:creator>Royalty Based Investment: What's in It for Angel Investors &#124; Venture Hype</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a startup to go public or get acquired, an investor can start seeing returns almost immediately,” says Gregory T. Huang of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What is the biggest barrier to new impact investors? &#124; Village Capital</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2009/10/07/royalty-based-venture-financing-born-in-boston-could-shake-up-vcs-and-startups-from-new-england-to-the-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-242509</link>
		<dc:creator>What is the biggest barrier to new impact investors? &#124; Village Capital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 03:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the company&#8217;s total sales as an investor up until we are repaid $300,000).   This kind of &#8220;revenue-based financing&#8221; might fit an investment where there are no secondary markets.  Profounder, created by Jessica [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Royalty-based Venture Financing is a very compelling model, but it still leaves a void for start-ups that are just $100K - $500K away from launching into the market.  Traditional VC is not investing at this level, and angels and groups have moved more towards sharing deals with VCs.  There needs to be a new VC model for pre-revenue investing that rewards entrepreneurs, investment professionals, and thier investors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Royalty-based Venture Financing is a very compelling model, but it still leaves a void for start-ups that are just $100K – $500K away from launching into the market.  Traditional VC is not investing at this level, and angels and groups have moved more towards sharing deals with VCs.  There needs to be a new VC model for pre-revenue investing that rewards entrepreneurs, investment professionals, and thier investors.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Farm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this model is an interesting idea and certainly has it&#039;s place in creating financing for startups. However, the biggest downside to this financing model is ironically one of the biggest upsides. The fact that the investor doesn&#039;t own any shares in the company essentially nullifies any influential business decisions that the investor could make in the future. For example, if the investor wanted to replace the current CEO, the investor would have no say in making that decision unless he&#039;s on the Board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this model is an interesting idea and certainly has it’s place in creating financing for startups. However, the biggest downside to this financing model is ironically one of the biggest upsides. The fact that the investor doesn’t own any shares in the company essentially nullifies any influential business decisions that the investor could make in the future. For example, if the investor wanted to replace the current CEO, the investor would have no say in making that decision unless he’s on the Board.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Clapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Clapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 00:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The non-dilutive feature of a royalty makes it very attractive to companies that don&#039;t like what an equity round does to their ownership. But as some point out, this isn&#039;t really well suited for early stage financing.  

Royalty financing works better with later stage companies, and it is more akin to sub-debt.  In fact, at Arctaris we&#039;re using a royalty in place of stock warrants, so there is no dilution of ownership.  But when all is said and done, its use might be better suited for the company needing debt to replace the bank line it may have lost or had reduced during the recession.

It&#039;s also a highly transparent financing structure that eliminates the black box valuation on equity that is so offensive.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The non-dilutive feature of a royalty makes it very attractive to companies that don’t like what an equity round does to their ownership. But as some point out, this isn’t really well suited for early stage financing.  </p>
<p>Royalty financing works better with later stage companies, and it is more akin to sub-debt.  In fact, at Arctaris we’re using a royalty in place of stock warrants, so there is no dilution of ownership.  But when all is said and done, its use might be better suited for the company needing debt to replace the bank line it may have lost or had reduced during the recession.</p>
<p>It’s also a highly transparent financing structure that eliminates the black box valuation on equity that is so offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: The Search for Start-Up Capital: Entrepreneurs Should Investigate Royalty Based Financing &#124; Noobpreneur Business Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2009/10/07/royalty-based-venture-financing-born-in-boston-could-shake-up-vcs-and-startups-from-new-england-to-the-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-109073</link>
		<dc:creator>The Search for Start-Up Capital: Entrepreneurs Should Investigate Royalty Based Financing &#124; Noobpreneur Business Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sexy to a VC,” Thomas Thurston, the founder of Oregon-based Growth Science International, told Xconomy.com this October. “But to VCs who are innovative, they’ll say, ‘Sexy or not, I like getting good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Royalty-based venture financing could shake up VCs &#124; Technology Transfer Tactics</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2009/10/07/royalty-based-venture-financing-born-in-boston-could-shake-up-vcs-and-startups-from-new-england-to-the-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-87846</link>
		<dc:creator>Royalty-based venture financing could shake up VCs &#124; Technology Transfer Tactics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Doug Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2009/10/07/royalty-based-venture-financing-born-in-boston-could-shake-up-vcs-and-startups-from-new-england-to-the-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-87628</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Drew&#039;s comment:

The 3x-5x-10x returns mantra of Venture capital investment theory is simply naive in the current economy. The real objective, as in all investing, is the sustainable total return on capital under management. Based on VC current activity in Bio/Pharma it appears that less than 10% of deals are hitting the 10x mantra point. Investors could do just as well betting four random numbers on a roulette wheel and without management fees.

Total capital returns for the bio/pharma industry (includes un-amortized R&amp;D investment as capital) is just under 20%/yr and falling. The foods industry is slightly higher. These are similar to the returns on capital in the leasing industry which is also similar to the expected rates of return on equity capital for RBF.

The VC industry has relied far too long on a few celebrated outlier returns realized by an even fewer number of VC celebrity investors. Using RBF to focus on capitalizing assets- which should now include intellectual property- is a far more reliable, if less glamorous way, to really serve the capital provider in new technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Drew’s comment:</p>
<p>The 3x-5x-10x returns mantra of Venture capital investment theory is simply naive in the current economy. The real objective, as in all investing, is the sustainable total return on capital under management. Based on VC current activity in Bio/Pharma it appears that less than 10% of deals are hitting the 10x mantra point. Investors could do just as well betting four random numbers on a roulette wheel and without management fees.</p>
<p>Total capital returns for the bio/pharma industry (includes un-amortized R&amp;D investment as capital) is just under 20%/yr and falling. The foods industry is slightly higher. These are similar to the returns on capital in the leasing industry which is also similar to the expected rates of return on equity capital for RBF.</p>
<p>The VC industry has relied far too long on a few celebrated outlier returns realized by an even fewer number of VC celebrity investors. Using RBF to focus on capitalizing assets- which should now include intellectual property- is a far more reliable, if less glamorous way, to really serve the capital provider in new technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Senyei</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2009/10/07/royalty-based-venture-financing-born-in-boston-could-shake-up-vcs-and-startups-from-new-england-to-the-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-87624</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Senyei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with this type of financing, at least for bio-pharmaceuticals, is that the risk/reward is not there.

Usually you want to at least to dream about a 10X return, even though that rarely if ever happens. It will be interesting to see if anyone tries this with Biopharma...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this type of financing, at least for bio-pharmaceuticals, is that the risk/reward is not there.</p>
<p>Usually you want to at least to dream about a 10X return, even though that rarely if ever happens. It will be interesting to see if anyone tries this with Biopharma…</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2009/10/07/royalty-based-venture-financing-born-in-boston-could-shake-up-vcs-and-startups-from-new-england-to-the-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-87498</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Rastetter comment:

William- disagree with your blanket statement on R&amp;D funding. What do R&amp;D monies fund in the first place? Rented office/lab space, leased lab equipment, leased software- so why are you against having some R&amp;D money fund royalties on earlier and now re-capitalized R&amp;D? Especially if current R&amp;D is building on a previous R&amp;D platform.

Whole Foods doesn&#039;t tie its money up in owning a truck fleet- it leases them so it can put the cash it saves in the groceries they transport. 

Same with intellectual property, the kind of asset that R&amp;D builds. Who wants to tie up a couple of million $ in R&amp;D sunk costs for patents or trade secrets and then wait 12-15 years for a pay off? Sell it off now, license it back for a fair royalty and use the surplus cash to fund commercialization.

This is what savvy investors look for in successful companies. Good focus and good cash flow management. This is what RBF&#039;s bring to the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Rastetter comment:</p>
<p>William- disagree with your blanket statement on R&amp;D funding. What do R&amp;D monies fund in the first place? Rented office/lab space, leased lab equipment, leased software- so why are you against having some R&amp;D money fund royalties on earlier and now re-capitalized R&amp;D? Especially if current R&amp;D is building on a previous R&amp;D platform.</p>
<p>Whole Foods doesn’t tie its money up in owning a truck fleet- it leases them so it can put the cash it saves in the groceries they transport. </p>
<p>Same with intellectual property, the kind of asset that R&amp;D builds. Who wants to tie up a couple of million $ in R&amp;D sunk costs for patents or trade secrets and then wait 12-15 years for a pay off? Sell it off now, license it back for a fair royalty and use the surplus cash to fund commercialization.</p>
<p>This is what savvy investors look for in successful companies. Good focus and good cash flow management. This is what RBF’s bring to the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some comments on the comments.

Re: John Hamilton&#039;s comments- you are dead on in recognizing that royalty financing transactions significantly broaden the scope of deals that early stage capital can invest in. Because the exit strategy is hard wired into a royalty based transaction, if offers competitive returns without speculating on the future vagaries of the public markets. Plus there are no extra exit costs compared to IPO&#039;s. And it takes nothing away from the equity option. However as Gordon Empey previously noted, financing the intangible assets of a business first will provide significant equity valuation information which can make future equity negotiations more transparent to entrepreneur and VC alike. Whether VC&#039;s will become averse to follow-on equity financing in existing RBF&#039;s because of this new transparency remains to be seen.

Re: Phil Coburn&#039;s comment- to characterize RBF&#039;s as disguised loans misses the point that a royalty is a form of rent of specific kinds of property. In the case of most new companies this means the intangible property assets and more specifically intellectual property assets. The better analogy is capital asset leasing- like rail cars, trucking fleets and the like. 

In a bona fide sale and lease back the seller-entrepreneur gets the benefit of cash on the books and a 100% write off of the lease expense as incurred. The investor gets a depreciating asset so its taxable income is offset by the periodic depreciation of the purchase price. In the RBF model,the lease becomes a license and the depreciation becomes amortization. Comparing to traditional lending, there can be over 40% in future tax savings to the entrepreneur and 40% more income to investors when measured against the initial RBF investment. 

But it is also true that, depending on the investor&#039;s use of debt, a sale leaseback of real property can be treated as a loan for accounting and tax purposes. The same is generally true for the sale and license-back of intangible assets. So, as to usury laws, it will depend on the debt and equity structure of the RBF to determine whether the transaction is a &#039;true sale&#039; or a loan.

Finally, one comment/question for the author and commentators- It seems to me that RBF investments in selected business or technology sectors could create pools of related intellectual property rights that would be strategic to the investors and possibly to entrepreneurs. This would be in addition to the economic returns of the royalty streams of each RBF. Is the VC/ early stage investor community ready for the addition of such a paradigm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some comments on the comments.</p>
<p>Re: John Hamilton’s comments- you are dead on in recognizing that royalty financing transactions significantly broaden the scope of deals that early stage capital can invest in. Because the exit strategy is hard wired into a royalty based transaction, if offers competitive returns without speculating on the future vagaries of the public markets. Plus there are no extra exit costs compared to IPO’s. And it takes nothing away from the equity option. However as Gordon Empey previously noted, financing the intangible assets of a business first will provide significant equity valuation information which can make future equity negotiations more transparent to entrepreneur and VC alike. Whether VC’s will become averse to follow-on equity financing in existing RBF’s because of this new transparency remains to be seen.</p>
<p>Re: Phil Coburn’s comment- to characterize RBF’s as disguised loans misses the point that a royalty is a form of rent of specific kinds of property. In the case of most new companies this means the intangible property assets and more specifically intellectual property assets. The better analogy is capital asset leasing- like rail cars, trucking fleets and the like. </p>
<p>In a bona fide sale and lease back the seller-entrepreneur gets the benefit of cash on the books and a 100% write off of the lease expense as incurred. The investor gets a depreciating asset so its taxable income is offset by the periodic depreciation of the purchase price. In the RBF model,the lease becomes a license and the depreciation becomes amortization. Comparing to traditional lending, there can be over 40% in future tax savings to the entrepreneur and 40% more income to investors when measured against the initial RBF investment. </p>
<p>But it is also true that, depending on the investor’s use of debt, a sale leaseback of real property can be treated as a loan for accounting and tax purposes. The same is generally true for the sale and license-back of intangible assets. So, as to usury laws, it will depend on the debt and equity structure of the RBF to determine whether the transaction is a ‘true sale’ or a loan.</p>
<p>Finally, one comment/question for the author and commentators- It seems to me that RBF investments in selected business or technology sectors could create pools of related intellectual property rights that would be strategic to the investors and possibly to entrepreneurs. This would be in addition to the economic returns of the royalty streams of each RBF. Is the VC/ early stage investor community ready for the addition of such a paradigm?</p>
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		<title>By: William Rastetter</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Rastetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad idea:  If revenues include R&amp;D funding, this taps into capital that should be used for value creation.  If revenues are from product sales, investors will have to wait 12 to 15 years (or more!) to get any return from early stage companies.  Equity aligns investors and management much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad idea:  If revenues include R&amp;D funding, this taps into capital that should be used for value creation.  If revenues are from product sales, investors will have to wait 12 to 15 years (or more!) to get any return from early stage companies.  Equity aligns investors and management much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Schrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Gordon - thanks!  And don&#039;t worry too much about Wikipedia.  We still need attorneys  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Gordon – thanks!  And don’t worry too much about Wikipedia.  We still need attorneys  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Empey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Empey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - they can definitely be structured to avoid usury issues.  Varies state to state, but I agree with you.  And if Wikipedia says it&#039;s true, then it&#039;s true.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff – they can definitely be structured to avoid usury issues.  Varies state to state, but I agree with you.  And if Wikipedia says it’s true, then it’s true.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Schrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phil - regarding usury laws, perhaps the lawyers here (Gordon??) can answer better but I can&#039;t see how that would apply.  Usury applies to interest rates and doesnt&#039; even capture many fee provision (payday loans).  quick glance at wikipedia (FWIW) seems to confirm...as royalty based returns are inherently unknown at the time of making the deal.

@ Lukas - agree that many companies could face debt vs. RBF choices but high margin, high growth (but still not cfbe or debt eligible) companies could also use RBF.  Equity is nearly 100% dependant upon exits, so if an equity investor doesn&#039;t see an exit (which are increasingly rare) they don&#039;t get in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Phil – regarding usury laws, perhaps the lawyers here (Gordon??) can answer better but I can’t see how that would apply.  Usury applies to interest rates and doesnt’ even capture many fee provision (payday loans).  quick glance at wikipedia (FWIW) seems to confirm…as royalty based returns are inherently unknown at the time of making the deal.</p>
<p>@ Lukas – agree that many companies could face debt vs. RBF choices but high margin, high growth (but still not cfbe or debt eligible) companies could also use RBF.  Equity is nearly 100% dependant upon exits, so if an equity investor doesn’t see an exit (which are increasingly rare) they don’t get in.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lukas</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I have basically no exposure to this kind of financing... but it seems to me, based on the comments, that a company facing a choice between equity and royalty financing is not a realistic scenario.  It seems it would really be a choice between debt and royalty financing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I have basically no exposure to this kind of financing… but it seems to me, based on the comments, that a company facing a choice between equity and royalty financing is not a realistic scenario.  It seems it would really be a choice between debt and royalty financing.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Colburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Colburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As has been pointed out, these structures are basically loans (as opposied to equity).   Even the sale and leaseback of IT.    Can anyone comment on whether these deals avoid the usury laws in those states that have them (i.e. Calif,)???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has been pointed out, these structures are basically loans (as opposied to equity).   Even the sale and leaseback of IT.    Can anyone comment on whether these deals avoid the usury laws in those states that have them (i.e. Calif,)???</p>
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		<title>By: John Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is great to be raising people’s awareness re: royalty given today’s market.  Vested For Growth (VFG) has been investing in existing NH based companies using royalty financing for the past 8 years and have found it both useful and profitable.  

The real power of royalty is that it provides a way to invest in more deals.  Instead of chasing the same few “gazelles” - (less than 5% of companies are appropriate for equity), royalty allows VFG to bring growth financing to a much larger segment of business in our economy - existing businesses with owners who otherwise would balk at giving up ownership/control.  And royalty still offers the investor a &quot;high touch&quot; investment  -- though the nature of the partnering is based on win/win persuasion and not decision making due to lender liability issues. It also can provide the investor solid rewards, largely due to having payments start the first month (perhaps this is a good way to round out an equity portfolio with more income oriented returns).  Also if you use royalty with established companies, and not start ups, there are fewer homeruns and strike outs but many more singles/doubles.

I would also point out that investors do not need to stop offering equity, but simply add royalty to the array of deal structures that you offer entrepreneurs.  The result will be better for both parties, whether its royalty or equity. I don&#039;t see royalty as disruptive  - good equity deals will still get done.  However when established businesses get turned down by banks and they feel like their only other choice is equity, they may feel forced into doing equity - this is a recipe for a &quot;capital mismatch&quot; which is bad for the entrepreneur and bad for the investor and hopefully market awareness of royalty will serve to limit that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is great to be raising people’s awareness re: royalty given today’s market.  Vested For Growth (VFG) has been investing in existing NH based companies using royalty financing for the past 8 years and have found it both useful and profitable.  </p>
<p>The real power of royalty is that it provides a way to invest in more deals.  Instead of chasing the same few “gazelles” – (less than 5% of companies are appropriate for equity), royalty allows VFG to bring growth financing to a much larger segment of business in our economy – existing businesses with owners who otherwise would balk at giving up ownership/control.  And royalty still offers the investor a “high touch” investment  — though the nature of the partnering is based on win/win persuasion and not decision making due to lender liability issues. It also can provide the investor solid rewards, largely due to having payments start the first month (perhaps this is a good way to round out an equity portfolio with more income oriented returns).  Also if you use royalty with established companies, and not start ups, there are fewer homeruns and strike outs but many more singles/doubles.</p>
<p>I would also point out that investors do not need to stop offering equity, but simply add royalty to the array of deal structures that you offer entrepreneurs.  The result will be better for both parties, whether its royalty or equity. I don’t see royalty as disruptive  – good equity deals will still get done.  However when established businesses get turned down by banks and they feel like their only other choice is equity, they may feel forced into doing equity – this is a recipe for a “capital mismatch” which is bad for the entrepreneur and bad for the investor and hopefully market awareness of royalty will serve to limit that.</p>
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