Isis CEO Vows that Cholesterol Drug, Partnered With Genzyme, Will be “Remarkable” Advance

10/21/09Follow @xconomy

Isis Pharmaceuticals CEO Stanley Crooke is a man who knows how to make a grand gesture. The market may have been underwhelmed by what Isis and its partner, Genzyme, had to say about their first-of-a-kind cholesterol-lowering drug back in May, but to him that just means they’re missing the point.

When I stopped by to visit Crooke at the company’s (NASDAQ: ISIS) Carlsbad, CA, headquarters a few weeks ago to ask about his lead drug in development, mipomersen, he didn’t just offer up the usual optimistic platitudes. He said it’s going to be historic.

“In 30-plus years in drug discovery and development, I’ve been involved with 19 drugs that have made it to the market and 200 to 300 that haven’t,” Crooke says. “I’ve encountered two in my career that were amazing.”

One was cisplatinum chemotherapy for cancer. The other was cimetidine (Tagamet) for heartburn, Crooke says. “Mipomersen is the third one that’s remarkable.”

That’s a strong statement given that investors drove down Isis shares by 10 percent on heavy volume on May 20, after seeing their first glimpse of data from a pivotal trial of mipomersen. Expectations have been sky-high for this drug for a couple years now, as the next big thing for cholesterol after the invention of multi-billion dollar statin drugs such as Pfizer’s atorvastatin (Lipitor). Cambridge, MA based Genzyme (NASDAQ: GENZ) was said to outmaneuver more than a dozen rivals that wanted to co-develop mipomersen. In January 2008 Genyzme paid the princely sum of $325 million in upfront cash, plus $1.9 billion in potential milestone payments, (and potentially much more in future profit-sharing), to get a piece of ownership in this drug.

Stanley Crooke

Stanley Crooke

Mipomersen has generated so much interest for at least a couple big reasons—the need for more powerful cholesterol-lowering drugs for patients who can’t get those levels under control with conventional statins, and because it represents a potential standard-bearer for Isis’ antisense technology. It’s designed to use specially engineered strands of RNA drugs to block a problematic protein in the body, which often can’t be hit by conventional small-molecule drugs. In this case, mipomersen is engineered to block the production of a protein called apoB that carries the so-called “bad” LDL cholesterol in the bloodstream.

In May, Isis and Genzyme declared victory in a press release that announced the first pivotal clinical trial of mipomersen. The companies said that of 51 patients with a rare genetic abnormality called homozygous familial hypercholesterolemia that causes high cholesterol, the drug was a success. Patients on mipomersen had a 25 percent reduction in their LDL cholesterol counts, compared with a 3 percent drop for those on a placebo. The drug also reached its secondary goals, including showing an apoB protein reduction which correlated with the cholesterol-lowering—an important point for scientists and physicians.

But the market didn’t see it as reason to cheer. Patients with this genetic abnormality are seriously ill, with LDL cholesterol scores at an eye-popping 400 milligrams per deciliter of blood when they entered the study. (Anything below 200 is considered desirable, according to the Mayo Clinic).

So simple math says that a 25 percent reduction from 400 takes those patients down to about 300, which might be good, even unprecedented for such sick patients, but it’s still not what most patients and doctors would consider healthy. Plus, there were six patients who didn’t complete their course of treatment after they were enrolled in the study, which certainly didn’t help.

So why was Crooke so enthused? He walked me through some of the context around the data that will be presented next month at the American Heart Association’s scientific sessions in Orlando, FL.

What’s remarkable, Crooke says, is that mipomersen works in every animal, and in every human who has been tested. It works consistently across multiple measurements of heart disease, like total cholesterol, and LDL. The higher the dose goes, the lower the apoB protein level goes. The drug works in patients who are new to treatment, and provides a consistent 35 to 40 percent reduction for patients who are taking the maximum tolerated dose of statins, he says.

“I’ve never seen a drug do that,” Crooke says.

Sounds simple enough, but the development path for this drug is especially tricky. The companies hope to begin marketing this drug, in classic Genzyme style, as a treatment for a rare genetic disorder in need of a life-saving therapy. That will surely come at a high price. But the companies also plan to introduce the product in a larger population of patients with a more common genetic disorder that puts them at very high cholesterol and associated heart risks, as well as a broader population of people who just have high cholesterol that’s not thoroughly controlled by maximum statin doses.

With an eye toward eventual broader market usage, Isis and Genzyme decided to go with what Crooke called a “middle-of-the-road” dose of 200 milligrams once a week. The companies figured that dosage offered the best overall balance of effectiveness and safety, although it also meant the odds are higher that they might see less-than-stellar effectiveness in the initial group of super-tough-to-treat patients, Crooke says. “This is the study I was most worried about heading in,” he says.

He wouldn’t spill the beans about what the data really is going to say at the American Heart Association, but he suggested that the LDL reduction scores will look better when researchers look only at patients who completed the protocol. Six dropouts who are penalizing your trial normally doesn’t sound like much, but it does add up when the trial only has 51 patients to begin with.

When I asked why those patients dropped out, Crooke was clearly annoyed, saying, “there is some fatalism” among the patients with this rare disorder that causes high cholesterol. It also can be hard to stay motivated to stick with a trial that required visiting the doctor once a week for 26 weeks for blood draws, and new drug dosing. Sometimes patients had to travel long distances, Crooke says.

One patient on mipomersen dropped out after elevated liver enzymes were seen in the blood, which can be a sign of liver damage, a side effect that the FDA will surely watch out for. There also was some more variation from patient to patient in this study than was seen in earlier studies, Crooke says. But none of that outweighs the positive result in his mind, which will be presented to the world in less than a month. “When we show the data, people will be as thrilled as we are,” Crooke says.

Even beyond that, Crooke vowed that mipomersen will be the drug that, once and for all, he says, will lay to rest skepticism toward antisense technology.

“First there’s wild enthusiasm about a new technology, then comes the disappointment, cynicism, and slow, grudging acceptance,” Crooke says. “Then you start to hear people say ‘it was my idea to begin with.’ “

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  • adam feuerstein

    Luke — Crooke was “annoyed” when you asked him about the patients who dropped out of his study? Who cares about ITT results, right? I mean, let’s just get rid of all the patients who don’t respond or who have side effects so severe that they need to stop taking the drug. Brush those “annoying” patients under the rug.

    Were you able to keep a straight face when he threw this blather out there?

  • http://www.xconomy.com/author/ltimmerman/ Luke Timmerman

    Adam–He wasn’t trying to downplay the intent-to-treat analysis, that would be disingenuous. But in a trial with such small numbers, six dropouts can make a difference between an ITT and a completer analysis. I think he was annoyed at the patients themselves, or maybe his own company, for not being able to keep them on the protocol. That point wasn’t totally clear to me, but I thought it was worth noting that the six dropouts are a sore point when looking at this study result, and something worth focusing on at the American Heart Association.

  • http://mediabankers.com Roland DeSilva

    Luke,
    I have been following this company for 7yrs and its process is amazing, which is why Genzyme invested. The FDA is making the company jump thru hoops, because if effect they are now completing a 4th stage testing, all of which has and will prove out.
    Adam sounds like a short seller who is trying to make his position. Full disclosure..I am long on the stock.

  • adam feuerstein

    stanley crooke — disingenous? Never!

    Why won’t there be a large (or larger) number of dropouts in a large (or larger) trial?

    mipo will be fortunate to be approved in the homozygous patients. It’s the best and only shot this drug has, given the tiny patient population and severity of disease. I think approval in heterozygous patients or statin-intolerants/refractory is a pipe dream.

  • http://mediabankers.com Roland DeSilva

    Adam,
    You sound like a short to me or have some other agenda. You are seriously uniformed. I

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  • http://IV theodore bash

    I question AF’s ability to understand the science and the importance of this drug for a selected population that GENZ and ISIS think will be bigger than just for HoF. I’ve put my money on GENZ/ISIS, not on the person who miscalled so many other binary events. A posting of AF’s record would increase his creditiblity. t

  • Art

    Adam, the 25% reduction included the 6 dropouts so the reduction in ldl-c was actually > 30%. Some of these people live in Africa and probably don’t have use of a car. For a guy that has a paid column you sound very unprofessional, like someone with an ax to grind when it comes to Crooke. In fact you remind me of the nut case who goes by the name of darkout on Yahoo.

  • bogtalk

    Art-
    I have seen Feuerstein the columnist you refer to as a featured speaker. He was very professional and knowledgeable, not at all like the Feuerstein who is posting above. And why would a busy professional be spending his time posting on an obscure venue like this one?
    As for sounding like Dark, I think Dark was a little more sopisticated than this guy. jmo.
    Bogtalk

  • noonne

    Looks like that Mipomersen drug does exactly the same as Eprotirome, a drug in developing by the Swedish company Karo Bio.
    http://www.karobio.se/en/Research–Development/Our-RD-Portfolio2/KB2115/

  • minifesto

    Love your answer to Feuerstein or sosie. I am long on ISIS and plan to speak with Stan the man. So your interview was useful.

    Been investing for 50 years and 15 years in biotechs.

    Like ALNY ATHX CALP LGND MYRX OSIR ZGEN. Very interested in ATHM but do they have enough cash. Will speak to Tim after vacation.

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