Comments on: The 3-D Graphics Revolution of 1859—and How to See in Stereo on Your iPhone http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/ Business + Technology in the Exponential Economy Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:30:41 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: steve http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-64664 steve Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:25:39 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-64664 Nice, but it would be better if the images were switched for cross eye viewing. Cross eye viewing is superior in many ways... First, it is a better technique to know; you can view much larger images (with parallel viewing, images can NOT be much bigger than the distance between your pupils). It is also much easier to learn the cross eye technique by looking at your finger in front of the screen and moving it towards and away from the screen until you see three images instead of 2 or 4. You get a real object to focus on until it becomes natural (only takes minutes before you no longer need your finger). With parallel view you have to try to focus beyond the image (not a natural thing for eyes to do). Using my I phone, I have taken great looking stereo images and with the cross eye method can display them on my tv. This would be impossible with parallel view. To do this you must have an object/person that/who will be very still. Just hold the phone slightly to the right of your head, take a picture, then take another picture from the left side of your head. Only move the phone/camera horizontally. Any vertical movement will make it harder to view. Find those 2 pictures on your phone. If they are listed on the same row on your phone, just cross your eyes and you can see it in 3d right there without opening the images. To make the images printable or viewable elsewhere just use MS Paint or photoshop to copy and paste the second image to the right of the first image. The picture you took from the right side always goes on the left, otherwise you have to parallel view it and it has to be small. Nice, but it would be better if the images were switched for cross eye viewing. Cross eye viewing is superior in many ways… First, it is a better technique to know; you can view much larger images (with parallel viewing, images can NOT be much bigger than the distance between your pupils). It is also much easier to learn the cross eye technique by looking at your finger in front of the screen and moving it towards and away from the screen until you see three images instead of 2 or 4. You get a real object to focus on until it becomes natural (only takes minutes before you no longer need your finger). With parallel view you have to try to focus beyond the image (not a natural thing for eyes to do).

Using my I phone, I have taken great looking stereo images and with the cross eye method can display them on my tv. This would be impossible with parallel view. To do this you must have an object/person that/who will be very still. Just hold the phone slightly to the right of your head, take a picture, then take another picture from the left side of your head. Only move the phone/camera horizontally. Any vertical movement will make it harder to view. Find those 2 pictures on your phone. If they are listed on the same row on your phone, just cross your eyes and you can see it in 3d right there without opening the images. To make the images printable or viewable elsewhere just use MS Paint or photoshop to copy and paste the second image to the right of the first image. The picture you took from the right side always goes on the left, otherwise you have to parallel view it and it has to be small.

]]> By: J.A. Ginsburg http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43723 J.A. Ginsburg Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:09:17 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43723 Most of my baby pictures were taken with a Kodak stereo camera. Mr. Bubble never looked so good... fyi, I flicked to your wonderful article at the end of this post: http://tinyurl.com/974e6o cheers... Most of my baby pictures were taken with a Kodak stereo camera. Mr. Bubble never looked so good…

fyi, I flicked to your wonderful article at the end of this post: http://tinyurl.com/974e6o

cheers…

]]> By: Big Pictures from Little Pixels: Zooming In on GigaPan; iPhone Fun with SeaDragon and 3-D Pictures « Tracker Editor’s Blog http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43712 Big Pictures from Little Pixels: Zooming In on GigaPan; iPhone Fun with SeaDragon and 3-D Pictures « Tracker Editor’s Blog Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:48:50 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43712 [...] Check out this an article by Xconomy’s Wade Roush for adapting the Gigapan of its day – stereo pictures — for viewing on iPhone, no software [...] [...] Check out this an article by Xconomy’s Wade Roush for adapting the Gigapan of its day – stereo pictures — for viewing on iPhone, no software [...]

]]> By: Vernon Davis http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43522 Vernon Davis Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:04:50 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43522 To use the cross-eye approach, hold the iPhone an arm's length away and cross your eyes until you see 3 images; the one in the center will be the 3D image and will be the brightest. To use the cross-eye approach, hold the iPhone an arm’s length away and cross your eyes until you see 3 images; the one in the center will be the 3D image and will be the brightest.

]]> By: PabloG » Blog Archive » links for 2008-12-22 http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43521 PabloG » Blog Archive » links for 2008-12-22 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:55:08 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43521 [...] The 3-D Graphics Revolution of 1859—and How to See in Stereo on Your iPhone | Xconomy (tags: 3D images histoire photo bibliothèques library iphone graphics archives optique) [...] [...] The 3-D Graphics Revolution of 1859—and How to See in Stereo on Your iPhone | Xconomy (tags: 3D images histoire photo bibliothèques library iphone graphics archives optique) [...]

]]> By: Robert Thorpe http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43498 Robert Thorpe Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:27:41 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43498 You may be surprised to know that there are many people involved in producing modern day stereoviews. Some are as good or better than the best photographers of yesteryear. Look up the National Stereoscopic Association http://www.stereoview.org/ . You may be surprised to know that there are many people involved in producing modern day stereoviews. Some are as good or better than the best photographers of yesteryear. Look up the National Stereoscopic Association http://www.stereoview.org/ .

]]> By: RoverDaddy http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43480 RoverDaddy Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:20:55 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43480 Great! Now I can place 'ViewMaster' on the list of gadgets replaced by my iPhone! ;) Great! Now I can place ‘ViewMaster’ on the list of gadgets replaced by my iPhone! ;)

]]> By: A Johnstone http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43476 A Johnstone Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:23:27 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43476 I think there is huge potential for free-view video, either collected footage or computer generated. During this last year I met a guy working with VR equipment. He had created a program that generated parallel views of a 3D environment. I tried the cross focus on the two 17 inch computer monitors and it worked! Not only did the two massive images combine, but it wasn't a problem to remain focused, even when I was looking around the environment using a 3D mouse. I really like this DIY approach to 3D, hopefully we'll see some projects using this in the future. I think there is huge potential for free-view video, either collected footage or computer generated.

During this last year I met a guy working with VR equipment. He had created a program that generated parallel views of a 3D environment. I tried the cross focus on the two 17 inch computer monitors and it worked! Not only did the two massive images combine, but it wasn’t a problem to remain focused, even when I was looking around the environment using a 3D mouse.

I really like this DIY approach to 3D, hopefully we’ll see some projects using this in the future.

]]> By: Silicontrip http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43473 Silicontrip Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:42:55 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43473 Personally I find cross eyed easier than wall eyed. Of course I had to teach myself wall eye for those random dot stereograms (and simple image stereograms) that were all the rage 10 years ago. However why not produce pictures for both by swapping the order of the two images. Infact this could be done no brainer in software. Or have 3 images, by repeating one of them, so you could simply chose to go wall eyed or cross eyed by covering either the very left or very right image... whichever is easier depending on your DNA :-) I thought that the problem with wall eyed is that you cannot make your eyes point outward, only parallel, so the distance between images *MUST* be the same as the width of your eyes. Which is not very big compared to most images today. Personally I find cross eyed easier than wall eyed. Of course I had to teach myself wall eye for those random dot stereograms (and simple image stereograms) that were all the rage 10 years ago.

However why not produce pictures for both by swapping the order of the two images. Infact this could be done no brainer in software. Or have 3 images, by repeating one of them, so you could simply chose to go wall eyed or cross eyed by covering either the very left or very right image… whichever is easier depending on your DNA :-)

I thought that the problem with wall eyed is that you cannot make your eyes point outward, only parallel, so the distance between images *MUST* be the same as the width of your eyes. Which is not very big compared to most images today.

]]> By: Freke1 http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43456 Freke1 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:13:03 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43456 Nice, here's one from the Apollo moon missions: http://www.3d.wep.dk/mis/as17-134-20378_79_3Dparallel_2c.jpg Nice, here’s one from the Apollo moon missions:
http://www.3d.wep.dk/mis/as17-134-20378_79_3Dparallel_2c.jpg

]]> By: Anonymous Coward http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43445 Anonymous Coward Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:40:05 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43445 Along with travel and uplifting moral tales came the inevitable pr0n ... racy pictures of bordello beauties were common subjects, as were "classical" scenes of nymphs, and the softcore harem scenes. Along with travel and uplifting moral tales came the inevitable pr0n … racy pictures of bordello beauties were common subjects, as were “classical” scenes of nymphs, and the softcore harem scenes.

]]> By: Ethan http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43439 Ethan Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:50:52 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43439 It's worth noting that all these fabulous stereograms are designed for parallel viewing, while the guide given here teaches cross-viewing. For best (ie., non-inverted) results, I'd advise people to learn to parallel view, which I personally find is a lot easier than cross-viewing. It’s worth noting that all these fabulous stereograms are designed for parallel viewing, while the guide given here teaches cross-viewing.
For best (ie., non-inverted) results, I’d advise people to learn to parallel view, which I personally find is a lot easier than cross-viewing.

]]> By: habbi http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43438 habbi Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:46:23 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43438 woah! great! I just installed the app and suscribed to the rss feed. you guys try it, is really not that hard to see in 3D; the images just pop out and your brain does the rest by adjusting the focus. woah! great!

I just installed the app and suscribed to the rss feed. you guys try it, is really not that hard to see in 3D; the images just pop out and your brain does the rest by adjusting the focus.

]]> By: DH405 http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43433 DH405 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:41:16 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43433 Try using this tinyurl. MUCH easier to type. http://tinyurl.com/7xp4gc Try using this tinyurl. MUCH easier to type.

http://tinyurl.com/7xp4gc

]]> By: Lianne Epstein http://www.xconomy.com/national/2008/12/19/the-3-d-graphics-revolution-of-1859-and-how-to-see-in-stereo-on-your-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-43429 Lianne Epstein Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:48:03 +0000 http://www.xconomy.com/?p=7049#comment-43429 If you like 3D, check out: http://www.dzignlight.com/stereo/skydiving.shtml and http://www.goldentheband.com/3d If you like 3D, check out:

http://www.dzignlight.com/stereo/skydiving.shtml
and
http://www.goldentheband.com/3d

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