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	<title>Comments on: The Browser Geolocation Wars: Skyhook’s CEO on Why Google Maps is Misreading Your Location</title>
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		<title>By: Google vs Skyhook &#171; andralatcu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google vs Skyhook &#171; andralatcu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sursa,Geolocation Wars [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jobbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jobbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is described is not &quot;triangulation&quot;. Possibly &quot;trilateration&quot; is used, at least in the binary sense of being in or out of range of a (set of) WiFi access points.

I would think that the Google camera cars for Street View are doing exactly what Skyhook sys should be done, obtaining quality readings by driving own logging cars down every street. Surely Google did not miss the opportunity to add WiFi logging to the camera cars?

The qualiaty data obtained from the camera cars can also be used to assess the reliability of any mobile device taking part in the crowd-sourcing of locations not yet covered by the Steet View cars. Seems a good approach to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is described is not “triangulation”. Possibly “trilateration” is used, at least in the binary sense of being in or out of range of a (set of) WiFi access points.</p>
<p>I would think that the Google camera cars for Street View are doing exactly what Skyhook sys should be done, obtaining quality readings by driving own logging cars down every street. Surely Google did not miss the opportunity to add WiFi logging to the camera cars?</p>
<p>The qualiaty data obtained from the camera cars can also be used to assess the reliability of any mobile device taking part in the crowd-sourcing of locations not yet covered by the Steet View cars. Seems a good approach to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Firefox 3.5 Geolocation Part 1 &#171; Jeremy Osborn: Designer, Educator, Writer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firefox 3.5 Geolocation Part 1 &#171; Jeremy Osborn: Designer, Educator, Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Browser Geolocation wars have already started      Comments (0) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Browser Geolocation in Firefox (and others&#8230;) &#8211; problems&#8230; : mapped.at blog</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2009/07/10/the-browser-geolocation-wars-skyhooks-ceo-on-why-google-maps-is-misreading-your-location/comment-page-1/#comment-70585</link>
		<dc:creator>Browser Geolocation in Firefox (and others&#8230;) &#8211; problems&#8230; : mapped.at blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] full story      Site Search Tags: Tags: firefox, geolocation, problems Posted In: General on July 13, 2009 Comments (0) You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hola PO! &#187; Por que falla My Location de Google Maps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hola PO! &#187; Por que falla My Location de Google Maps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vía &#124; Xconomy. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: personne</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2009/07/10/the-browser-geolocation-wars-skyhooks-ceo-on-why-google-maps-is-misreading-your-location/comment-page-1/#comment-70533</link>
		<dc:creator>personne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not impressed by Skyhook&#039;s position. Covering &quot;the United States, Europe and Asia&quot; (hi from Canada!) using drivers in cars seems silly, if they&#039;re not doing an alliance with an international shipping company at least. Correlated crowdsourcing is the better idea, and much more internet (non proprietary, many individuals involved rather than one company) in nature. Ultimately both methods are prone to errors, gaps, and spoofing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not impressed by Skyhook’s position. Covering “the United States, Europe and Asia” (hi from Canada!) using drivers in cars seems silly, if they’re not doing an alliance with an international shipping company at least. Correlated crowdsourcing is the better idea, and much more internet (non proprietary, many individuals involved rather than one company) in nature. Ultimately both methods are prone to errors, gaps, and spoofing.</p>
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		<title>By: Epicanis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epicanis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;taps into a computer&#039;s wifi chip&quot;, &quot;proprietary database&quot;...While I&#039;d have no objection to the company offering an addon, I&#039;m glad this proprietary service wasn&#039;t installed by default as it was in early test releases of Firefox&#039;s geolocation API.

It still boggles my mind that there&#039;s no &quot;manual entry&quot; option for this, though.  You&#039;d think a simple &quot;enter your latitude and longitude&quot; dialog would have been the first thing put in just to test the geolocation API when it was originally being developed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“taps into a computer’s wifi chip”, “proprietary database”…While I’d have no objection to the company offering an addon, I’m glad this proprietary service wasn’t installed by default as it was in early test releases of Firefox’s geolocation API.</p>
<p>It still boggles my mind that there’s no “manual entry” option for this, though.  You’d think a simple “enter your latitude and longitude” dialog would have been the first thing put in just to test the geolocation API when it was originally being developed.</p>
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		<title>By: Por qué falla My Location de Google Maps &#124; Andrew Grau - Freelance Designer</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2009/07/10/the-browser-geolocation-wars-skyhooks-ceo-on-why-google-maps-is-misreading-your-location/comment-page-1/#comment-70483</link>
		<dc:creator>Por qué falla My Location de Google Maps &#124; Andrew Grau - Freelance Designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vía &#124; Xconomy. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Moova! News on the Move &#187; Por qué falla My Location de Google Maps</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2009/07/10/the-browser-geolocation-wars-skyhooks-ceo-on-why-google-maps-is-misreading-your-location/comment-page-1/#comment-70473</link>
		<dc:creator>Moova! News on the Move &#187; Por qué falla My Location de Google Maps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Por que falla My Location de Google Maps : Blogografia</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2009/07/10/the-browser-geolocation-wars-skyhooks-ceo-on-why-google-maps-is-misreading-your-location/comment-page-1/#comment-70463</link>
		<dc:creator>Por que falla My Location de Google Maps : Blogografia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Craig Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2009/07/10/the-browser-geolocation-wars-skyhooks-ceo-on-why-google-maps-is-misreading-your-location/comment-page-1/#comment-70252</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal experience with skyhooks was that the technology was unable to live up to the claims of the marketware. No idea if Google is going to be able to do a better job, but competition is almost always a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal experience with skyhooks was that the technology was unable to live up to the claims of the marketware. No idea if Google is going to be able to do a better job, but competition is almost always a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How in the world could anon have turned this into some sort of anti-FF screed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How in the world could anon have turned this into some sort of anti-FF screed?</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anon 2:48pm

Noted. By the way, there&#039;s a nice new Italian restaurant just two blocks south from your current location.</description>
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<p>Noted. By the way, there’s a nice new Italian restaurant just two blocks south from your current location.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiny thing not work so good. at google skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiny thing not work so good. at google skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read the whole thing at The Browser Geolocation Wars: Skyhook’s CEO on Why Google Maps is Misreading Your Location &#124; Xcono.... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not in the slightest interested in a website being able to determine where I am, and along with the horrendous URL bar, FF3 is not something I will be running.

The IE using crowd will be fawning over these kind of things, but anyone who was attracted to FF by its initial philosophy is now pretty sick of FF and the way it has gone.

Edit: spreading articles over multiple pages just to stick more adverts in visitors faces is not friendly, and will ultimately mean users will just block adverts, killing your revenue totally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not in the slightest interested in a website being able to determine where I am, and along with the horrendous URL bar, FF3 is not something I will be running.</p>
<p>The IE using crowd will be fawning over these kind of things, but anyone who was attracted to FF by its initial philosophy is now pretty sick of FF and the way it has gone.</p>
<p>Edit: spreading articles over multiple pages just to stick more adverts in visitors faces is not friendly, and will ultimately mean users will just block adverts, killing your revenue totally.</p>
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		<title>By: Crowd Sourcing vs. Tribe Sourcing &#171; All Things Visual</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crowd Sourcing vs. Tribe Sourcing &#171; All Things Visual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is not that good.  It turns out that&#8217;s because they are crowd sourcing their info. From Wade Roush&#8217;s article: &#8220;[Google] quietly gathers local readings every time someone uses a Google app on an iPhone [...]</description>
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