Comments on: Locale App for Android Phones “Wouldn’t Even Be Possible on the iPhone,” Says Winner of $275K Developer Challenge

By: Training Choices for App Development | The Appconomy

Training Choices for App Development | The Appconomy — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:25:21 +0000

[...] gained in these courses seem to be proving of merit as well, as evidenced by one example where a student-produced app earning $275,000 in a Google-sponsored [...]

By: Kris Mac Dot Com » Locale App for Android Phones “Wouldn’t Even Be Possible on the iPhone,” Says Winner of $275K Developer Challenge | Xconomy

Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:31:09 +0000

[...] Locale App for Android Phones “Wouldn’t Even Be Possible on the iPhone,” Says Winner of $275K …: “Last week’s unveiling of the first phone running the Android operating system—the T-Mobile G1, which will be available to consumers on October 22—suddenly” Permalink 0 Comment filed under: Technofile, Uncategorized [...]

By: Kris Mac Dot Com » Locale App for Android Phones “Wouldn’t Even Be Possible on the iPhone,” Says Winner of $275K Developer Challenge | Xconomy

Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:12:06 +0000

By: Kris Mac Dot Com » Locale App for Android Phones “Wouldn’t Even Be Possible on the iPhone,” Says Winner of $275K Developer Challenge | Xconomy

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:20:16 +0000

[...] Says Winner of $275K Developer Challenge | Xconomy Posted on Aug. 13th, 2009 by admin Locale App for Android Phones “Wouldn’t Even Be Possible on the iPhone,” Says Winner of $275K …: “Last week’s unveiling of the first phone running the Android operating [...]

By: gman

gman — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:30:21 +0000

Mike, please, shut your mouth and don’t embarrass yourself. Linux is not some company or corporation that COULD have a business model. It is a free foundation, and most applications are free because their developers want them to be free, not because it is their “business model”.

Linux is not trying to take over anything, when are you lamos going to understand that? It is already dominating on servers and even getting bigger in desktops, but it is not the same as windows or mac, and has never tried to be.

And hearing about your complaints about java just makes me laugh at your ignorance and incompetence. Java IS NOT THE SAME THING as C++, delphi or any other compilable language. Just like assembler is not the same as php. YES, assembler is like 500 times faster than php and perhaps 10 times faster than java, but that’s not the point. There is a reason for creation of high level languages and speed is not the only thing that is important in development of applications.

And android’s choice for using java for its apps is just perfect. It is the only feasible way to make all of the applications directly (without porting) compatible with ANY device running android, whether it is running a qualcomm or intel processor, whether it has any special processor features or not, and so on and so on.

So go buy some another overpriced and overhyped piece of garbage with a picture of an apple on it and don’t consider yourself with things your cannot comprehend.
Apple’s bitch…

By: Why I didn’t buy an iPhone, again. | Robert N. Lee.com

Why I didn’t buy an iPhone, again. | Robert N. Lee.com — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:36:42 +0000

[...] I was making the list of software I had to install, first thing, and…Locale. The star of the pre-launch Android developer challenges, at least to me, the simple little app [...]

By: Is iPhone 3.0’s Push Notification Good Enough? | SkratchBoard.com

Is iPhone 3.0’s Push Notification Good Enough? | SkratchBoard.com — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:20:21 +0000

[...] in a car or bus or walking and calculates your carbon footprint. Another app for Android called Locale, automatically changes your phone’s profile (i.e. ringtone, wallpaper, etc.) depending on your [...]

By: Thoughts on the G1 : Unquiet Desperation

Thoughts on the G1 : Unquiet Desperation — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:19:12 +0000

[...] It just so happens that there is a great app called Locale which fixes this little problem. Developed by a group of MIT students, this app tracks where you are using both Wifi and GPS and will switch off services when you are in [...]

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:31:11 +0000

Carlos still waiting for Linux to take over the desktop too? Ha! Java and Linux are still not primetime tools. And have they come up with a biz model yet? O wait, I remember: give away crappy software for free, charge through the nose for support, close up shop and go back to teaching students (they are the only naïve ones who will listen to you).

By: justme

justme — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:53:14 +0000

@Spinlock = What are you on about?

So to do what the Android can do out of the box, you have to go jailbreak your phone so you can run ‘unoffical’ software? Cause apple won’t allow you to out of the box?

Why are you even reading this? go read apple.com

By: sleebus.jones

sleebus.jones — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:51:09 +0000

Sad little whiny iPhone fanbois. You just don’t get it do you?

G1 = it just works (tee hee)
iPhone = works if you hack it (if the app is out there) and after you put your warranty at risk.

Obvious winner: G1, the iPhone if you’re blind, stupid and ignorant.

By: Spinlock

Spinlock — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:36:01 +0000

Facts:

- The unofficial iPhone SDK allows modification of all phone settings.

- The unofficial iPhone SDK allows background applications.

- The unofficial iPhone SDK allows kernel extensions.

- The official and unoffical iPhone SDKs allow (even force) native code execution.

- The Android platform forces developers to use Java.

Conclusion:

- To those willing to jailbreak, the iPhone will be the more responsive, more capable system.

I was worried myself when I heard about Android – a google attempt at a linux based phone platform? But then I heard it was all Java, and my buyers remorse was replaced with bitter sweet relief. No emulators? No easy porting of any existing non Java nix apps? What a total waste :[ Guess I’m still holding out for the linux multi-touch EVDO Tegra platform.

By: jake

jake — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:32:04 +0000

@justme
Yes, I think that is the important point. So far my phone couldn’t do that. You have to select the profile yourself.

@mokomoko
Openmoko would have been a better platform if they had made their phones appeal to mainstream customers and polished their work. It still has fragmentation & portability problems so far. Yes, Android loses lots of flexibility compared to Openmoko (ie. your java comment), but I think Google is trying to strike a good balance so that Android can survive commercially & still is flexible enough for most developers.

For people leaving the comments about the “not possible” bit, they were talking specifically about the iPhone. I know WinMo had a similar program called phoneAlarm. Don’t have to read too much into it, it is obvious they are referring to the limitations of the current iPhone SDK.

By: Getting to Know Locale and the MIT Team Behind It | AndroidGuys

Getting to Know Locale and the MIT Team Behind It | AndroidGuys — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:23:09 +0000

[...] a great read over on xconomy that profiles the team of MIT students who helped create Locale. They talk about the ideas that birthed it as well as [...]

By: Locale Android Winner Gets Interviewed, App Available October 22 — GPS Obsessed

Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:01:39 +0000

[...] has an insightful interview with Carter Lannigan, one of the member’s of the Locale Android app team that was among 10 [...]

By: justme

justme — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:18:01 +0000

@Bravia – Yes normal phones COULD do all that, but currently no phone does that automatically till this app came along for Android. Were talking a fully automatic setting change. Not some remember to change profile when I get to somewere.

You miss the point, COULD doesn’t mean it will be done! Apple COULD allow Mac X to be installed on dell hardware, but they haven’t and wont at stage.

By: mokomoko

mokomoko — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:24:04 +0000

“Other platforms have their own limitations. The openness of Android creates an environment for applications that just aren’t possible on other platforms.”

OpenMoko has fewer limitations than Android — none, in fact. You aren’t even forced to use Java.

In fact, it’s kind of hilarious (if it wasn’t so sad) to see people talking about the power of Java, which Alan Kay called “the most distressing thing to happen to computing since MS-DOS”.

By: Grant Hutchins

Grant Hutchins — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:09:36 +0000

Saying that it “wouldn’t” be possible implies that it is never going to be possible. I think that the answer is more along the lines of:

It is not currently possible, when following Apple’s rules.

Certainly it is possible on something like a jailbroken iPhone.

So there’s nothing inherent about the iPhone that prevents this sort of app from ever being developed. Last year someone could have written a tip calculator for Android and said that it “wouldn’t even be possible on the iPhone”.

By: Carlos

Carlos — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:28:42 +0000

Facts:

- The iPhone SDK doesn’t allow third party developers to modify phone settings.

- The iPhone SDK doesn’t allow third party developers to run background applications.

- The Android platform allows third party developers to modify phone settings with user permissions.

- The Android platform allows third party developers to run background tasks.

Conclusion:

- You can develop an application like Locale for the iPhone if your name is “Apple”. Otherwise you can’t.

- Everybody can develop an application like Locale for Android phones.

By: Bravia

Bravia — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:54:19 +0000

Not Possible? what are they smoking?? A regular phone has “profiles” and you normally enable it via a single key, if a regular phone had GPS/LBS it’s a matter of setting a variable to kick in via auto update.